Lead engineer gets convinced by manager to give up $5000 bonus for intern bonuses, has second thoughts when other team lead receives bonus: 'I'm sure the CEO will know about this'

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  • Friend gave up his bonus to help new hires get their bonuses. Unselfish or dumb move?

    My friend Calvin has been working at a small engineering firm for nearly 7 years. He's a lead engineer that normally gets an annual bonus of around $3-5000.
  • In 2025, his company hired a bunch of new interns and newly graduated engineers so the office manager approached Calvin and asked if he would forgo his bonus this year to give the 4 engineers that work under him a smaller bonus of about $1000 each.
  • While Calvin isn't broke, he told me he normally used that bonus to pay for a Disneyland vacation or something similar every year for his family.
  • The company reasoned to Calvin that anyone in a lead position is being asked to forgo their bonuses as they cannot afford to give everyone a generous bonus and to incentivize the new hires to stay with them as they predict 2026 to be a big year and need them.
  • "You will have the thanks and appreciation of everyone here and I'm sure the CEO will know about this." Is what Calvin told me his office managers said.
  • Calvin felt pressured but ultimately decided to forgo and give up his bonus. He later spoke to another team lead who says he took his normal bonus because the company always brags about how much profit they're making at every quarterly meeting. and how they're setting record numbers.
  • He urged Calvin to not buy into this facade that the company genuinely cares and that they will never think twice about calvin giving up his bonus and they won't hesitate to cut him at any moment.
  • The point he was trying to make was don't give up something that the company has promised him especially if they don't promise anything in return.
  • Calvin has told me about all this and I'm afraid to say that I agree with his coworker to a certain extent.
  • While you can really enjoy working for a place, be prepared to let that all go if the suddenly don't see a use for you anymore or if they feel they can take advantage of you.
  • I asked him if he knew that his office managers also gave up their bonuses as well and he was told that they were too.
  • But there's no real way to find out. Any thoughts?
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  • throwedoff1 Is the C Suite giving up their bonuses as well or just the team leads?
  • bestfriendever714 Original Poster's Reply From what I was told, they are not getting bonuses too but there's no way to prove that. Either way, I'm sure they're making way more money than Calvin to even care about it.
  • Random_NYer_18 Calvin was noble but dumb. That money will never come back to him, and they could lay him off next week with no recourse.
  • Ok_Job_9417 Dumb. The CEO could give up 3-5K profit if they wanted to motivate new hires to stay.
  • Old_Confidence3290 Unselfish AND a dumb move. But he is a good human being!
  • Nick-Riffs Calvin was being a nice guy. But nice guys finish last. That company could lay him off tomorrow morning and wouldn't give a damn about what he did for the other employees. He should've just kept the money like the other quy.
  • AstronautNumerous 184 That bonus was something Calvin earned and how dare the Office Managers solicit senior staff to give up their earned money! If Calvin used it to wipe his butt or save it, that's his right and no other employee has the right to talk him out of his money! This actually feels off, like if the contract needed to make an impression on new hires, they could have offered sign on bonuses, did Calvin's immediate boss ask him to do this? Is the CEO on board for giving away earned bon
  • lostone3592 Calvin now has a 'sucker' sticker on his file. If the business is so insolvent that it can't find a spare $4k to give the new hires a retention bonus, it's sinking anyway. They've taken the bonus he'd have gotten, and the senior mgr now has a nicer bonus.
  • 2wheelmoron69 The owner of the company can also choose to make $3-5k less that year. Don't let anyone bullshit you on this "it ain't in the budget" nonsense.
  • Senior-Cantaloupe-69 That's one of the dumbest things I've heard
  • publicsausage It's dumb but I'd do it once. Not that much money and could help/be leverage for advancement. Only once and I know its dumb but worth a shot for that amount.

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